Trial by 1993

May 14, 2008: Trial by Media (from December 1993)

Trial by media is a phrase popular in the late 20th century and early 21st century to describe the impact of television and newspaper coverage on a person's reputation by creating a widespread perception of guilt regardless of any verdict in a court of law.

A very old show, brought to us by Listener Brian. Why don't we hear this phrase as often today as we did in 1993?

Next week, Ken and Andy have a real great show idea, but they need a topic for everyone to call in and discuss. This is a show idea that they planned out TWO WEDNESDAYS ago, if you can believe it. Can you think of any good topics, my dear culture of commentary?

22 comments:

Joe said...

I still think they should do the entire show naked, as getting naked makes Andy so uncomfortable

Of course Ken will do it at the drop of a hat (or even without a hat) though I don't believe he still goes up to the WFMU roof!

wellbasically said...

Well I'm getting together with some family for Memorial Day. I'm sure we'll talk about how we got there, maybe that would be a good topic for your show.

acidjazzy said...

If you are interested in running with a previous suggestion of mine, this would be a great opportunity to compile a list of "Breckmanisms" from callers. We've all heard them so often, I'm sure you'd get plenty of calls...

Wednesday said...

For pete's sake that Dave/Gardiner/John/"Dradle guy" called four times and Andy&Ken never caught on.

Anyway, this might have been my favourite SSD show since… the Tattoo pledge drive show a few years ago (though, of course, this took place way before that).


I'm honestly curious as to how much of that was set up by that constant caller guy. He had a wife lying for him and two friends "from the Daily News".

Wednesday said...

I meant George for that Dave, I think, I'm not sure which one is which.

Wednesday said...

Sorry, five times. The constant caller was also the very last guy who called who asked about the dog.

Now I have to know who this guy was.

Robin said...

I think they did catch on, yes?

I started listening to 7SD in 1996; back in '93 Andy was more jovial and excited about things and Ken was going along with the jokes rather than play total straight by-the-book man.

Anonymous said...

If they don't do Radio Strip Something, they're missing a trick.

Dawson said...

An exciting topic to get people to call in would be celebrity sightings!

Listener zero said...

Since Andy is a man who appreciates poetry, what about a poetry reciting contest? The poems read should be by established authors and not by the callers themselves, to cut down on the possibilities of callers trying to be funny, witty or deep.

Raj said...

Wednesday,

If you listen to the "How's My driving?" show from 1995 in the archive, you'll hear a caller with a familiar voice named George Heller, who is known as Andy's protege and is hung up on by Ken (who explains why which in turn explains much about this Media Trail crankcall fiasco.)

There's a little more of exposition in the Homework Helper episode '95 (again, check the archive.)

I asked Ken about this. Understandibly this mish-mosh was blotted from his memory.

Joe said...

When I first started listening to the show in 99 it seemed that Ken was still trying to make the effort to make the effort to do a good show and all that entailed (by talking it through before and not just running with the scrap of an idea thought up five minutes before air time)

By this point Ken has given up. I just think he realizes he can't really do much. Its not really HIS show (tho Ken can be very droll - Andy is wrong about Ken having no sense of humor)

Again - a trainwreck does not always make for a decent show; maybe Kens hoping for that sometimes when Andy loses the will to live and refuses to go on with the show and theres, like, a half hour still to go!

Andy lines:
"If you see us, we're not waving we're drowning"

"Just say no - stay in school - don't do drugs"

Duncan said...

I agree with Joe; I think Ken's investment week by week has a lot more to do with the show's quality than he's usually given credit for.

Ken said...

Unfortunately we have to postpone the "really great idea" we had for the May 21st show. Oh well.

I actually try harder now than I ever have on the show, but Andy has become totally impossible to deal with. He falls in love with shit ideas and just wont let them go. I try to talk him into decent ideas and he has no interest in them. I call him on Tuesday nights and he doesn't answer the phone and doesn't call me back. So there you go. But I think we have a decent stock of good ideas at this moment. We'll see.

acidjazzy said...

Don't give up Ken. Regardless of how crappy the show gets, it's still the best thing on the air imo :-)

js said...

I'm confused - in the intro to the encore show, Ken said it wasn't a trainwreck.

Joe said...

Very good show tonight I felt

Nice to see Andy having fun with the timer!

Anonymous said...

The last two have been GREAT! Haters need to shut the $^%$ up! Wait, this is the Pdiddy message board, right? Diddy 4 life! He is Public Enemy number 1 (but in a good way)!

Robin said...

I would have thought that there were a million people lined up to get shows on WFMU. Am I wrong?

Joe said...

Robin being rhetorical
Silly cutie

wellbasically said...

Huh that's funny, I thought this repeat show was awful. I wanted to starngle those callers, thought they were so cute.

You can kind of see how the show turned into what it did with these smart folk calling in.

Joe said...

I'm more intrigued by the fact that theres a tape of the first Seven Second Delay show ever, and its TERRIBLE!

Maybe make it available as a premium, if its not replayed on a Wednesday when Andys working on Monk (or if Ken fills in for Andy, and they play Prince and the Pauper, with Andy filling in at Kens new position as Music Director!)